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	<title>Comments on: I hate the term: eMail deliverability by Jordie van Rijn @jvanrijn</title>
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		<title>By: Email interestability - how to make your email marketing more intersting &#124; The eMail Guide - The search engine for eMail marketing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Email interestability - how to make your email marketing more intersting &#124; The eMail Guide - The search engine for eMail marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] course in email persona’s In my last post I first mentioned interestability, the fact that you should make your messages interesting. This is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew Kordek</title>
		<link>http://www.theemailguide.com/email-marketing/i-hate-the-term-email-deliverability/comment-page-1/#comment-10930</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Kordek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jordie,

Great post.  However, I think the term interestability is a subjective term here.  30% of your subscribers might find content interesting while the other 70% can care less.  It could also be in reverse.  So my question centered around interestability is do the iSP&#039;s judge this a pre-cursor for inbox placement and to what standards are these guys going to judge on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordie,</p>
<p>Great post.  However, I think the term interestability is a subjective term here.  30% of your subscribers might find content interesting while the other 70% can care less.  It could also be in reverse.  So my question centered around interestability is do the iSP&#8217;s judge this a pre-cursor for inbox placement and to what standards are these guys going to judge on?</p>
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		<title>By: Anna Yeaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna Yeaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jordie, I&#039;m all about email design. I like to let others sweat deliverability... saying that, delivery is tied to engagement, so targeted/relevant content - interestablilty - is more important than ever :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jordie, I&#8217;m all about email design. I like to let others sweat deliverability&#8230; saying that, delivery is tied to engagement, so targeted/relevant content &#8211; interestablilty &#8211; is more important than ever :)</p>
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		<title>By: Jordie van Rijn</title>
		<link>http://www.theemailguide.com/email-marketing/i-hate-the-term-email-deliverability/comment-page-1/#comment-10886</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordie van Rijn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brandon,

Thanks a lot for your input. I think you are right on target with your comment. Deliverability is evolving. In the old days it was just not being on a spam list, now things are a bit more complex. Technically that is.

Because there always was the need to make interesting e-mails. It&#039;s needed to have a high interestability to get in your recipients heads and accomplish your business goals. A way to get there is by making your e-mails highly targeted and more relevant.

A lot can be improved there. Many (starting) email marketeers don’t have that knowledge to make the most out of their e-mailing and get a high “interestability”. It’s great that ESP’s like your yesmail help these marketeers with suggestions and coaching. But please, just don’t call it deliverability….

Greetings and again thanks for your input, 

Jordie van Rijn (http://www.twitter.com/jvanrijn)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brandon,</p>
<p>Thanks a lot for your input. I think you are right on target with your comment. Deliverability is evolving. In the old days it was just not being on a spam list, now things are a bit more complex. Technically that is.</p>
<p>Because there always was the need to make interesting e-mails. It&#8217;s needed to have a high interestability to get in your recipients heads and accomplish your business goals. A way to get there is by making your e-mails highly targeted and more relevant.</p>
<p>A lot can be improved there. Many (starting) email marketeers don’t have that knowledge to make the most out of their e-mailing and get a high “interestability”. It’s great that ESP’s like your yesmail help these marketeers with suggestions and coaching. But please, just don’t call it deliverability….</p>
<p>Greetings and again thanks for your input, </p>
<p>Jordie van Rijn (<a href="http://www.twitter.com/jvanrijn" rel="nofollow">http://www.twitter.com/jvanrijn</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Lachance</title>
		<link>http://www.theemailguide.com/email-marketing/i-hate-the-term-email-deliverability/comment-page-1/#comment-10881</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Lachance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have to disagree with the statement found in this post:

&quot;Did you get the message?
Deliverability is how well your message is getting through — through to the inbox that is. Not through to your recipients heads. It combines all the issues concerning getting your messages in the inbox, nothing beyond that. And that’s the big problem.&quot;

Deliverability is always evolving and changing. We are now working with clients to insure relevency and highly targeted mail. On a daily basis we suggest new ways to send mail and how you can make your mail as efficient as possible. Deliverability is strategy, relevency, targeting and information on how to mail to the best of a company&#039;s ability.

Deliverability will continue to grow and offer more solutions then just &quot;getting your messages into the inbox&quot;. Its not just about getting your messages to the inbox, its about how your doing it as well and that includes many variables. Think about it.

Brandon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to disagree with the statement found in this post:</p>
<p>&#8220;Did you get the message?<br />
Deliverability is how well your message is getting through — through to the inbox that is. Not through to your recipients heads. It combines all the issues concerning getting your messages in the inbox, nothing beyond that. And that’s the big problem.&#8221;</p>
<p>Deliverability is always evolving and changing. We are now working with clients to insure relevency and highly targeted mail. On a daily basis we suggest new ways to send mail and how you can make your mail as efficient as possible. Deliverability is strategy, relevency, targeting and information on how to mail to the best of a company&#8217;s ability.</p>
<p>Deliverability will continue to grow and offer more solutions then just &#8220;getting your messages into the inbox&#8221;. Its not just about getting your messages to the inbox, its about how your doing it as well and that includes many variables. Think about it.</p>
<p>Brandon</p>
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		<title>By: Jordie van Rijn</title>
		<link>http://www.theemailguide.com/email-marketing/i-hate-the-term-email-deliverability/comment-page-1/#comment-10848</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordie van Rijn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point,

I thought about it when writing the post and that is why i added &quot;contributing to your goals&quot;. Not every message is sent for the same reason.

If branding is your goal and the subscribers only the message in the inbox is the right form, more power to you. But still; there is a bit &quot;interestability&quot; needed from the subscriber to recognise the sender and an interestability effort to make the subjectline pop!

I agree that unopened and unclicked e-mails could have their worth. Some subscribers just don&#039;t feel to open your message every time. It might even be that someone could return as a very active subscriber after being dorment for a long time.

But still this is not the main reason most e-mailmarketeers send their e-mail messages. 

Jordie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point,</p>
<p>I thought about it when writing the post and that is why i added &#8220;contributing to your goals&#8221;. Not every message is sent for the same reason.</p>
<p>If branding is your goal and the subscribers only the message in the inbox is the right form, more power to you. But still; there is a bit &#8220;interestability&#8221; needed from the subscriber to recognise the sender and an interestability effort to make the subjectline pop!</p>
<p>I agree that unopened and unclicked e-mails could have their worth. Some subscribers just don&#8217;t feel to open your message every time. It might even be that someone could return as a very active subscriber after being dorment for a long time.</p>
<p>But still this is not the main reason most e-mailmarketeers send their e-mail messages. </p>
<p>Jordie</p>
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		<title>By: Chief eMail Officer</title>
		<link>http://www.theemailguide.com/email-marketing/i-hate-the-term-email-deliverability/comment-page-1/#comment-10847</link>
		<dc:creator>Chief eMail Officer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jordie...

Great post.

I wanted to address this question:

What is a message in an in-box worth if it’s not being clicked and read and not contributing to your goals? Right, it’s worth nothing.

I would have to disagree. There is some some value and I will give you my analogy.

It&#039;s the same as a McDonald&#039;s ad on the back of a bus. We all know who McDonalds is and we all know what a Big Mac is. Even if you are not going to go to McDonald&#039;s today there is brand value in being able to see that stupid Big Mac on the back of every bus day in day out.

Similarly, there is brand value in having your email in the in-box even if it never gets opened. Even if the recipient never opens my message there is some brand value in having them read my from address and subject line, day in day out.

They might not consider my message in the moment, but they will remember my brand over time.

After 6 months of no open and no click, I will pass on the branding exercise and move that recipient to my not interested list.

Let me know your thoughts.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jordie&#8230;</p>
<p>Great post.</p>
<p>I wanted to address this question:</p>
<p>What is a message in an in-box worth if it’s not being clicked and read and not contributing to your goals? Right, it’s worth nothing.</p>
<p>I would have to disagree. There is some some value and I will give you my analogy.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the same as a McDonald&#8217;s ad on the back of a bus. We all know who McDonalds is and we all know what a Big Mac is. Even if you are not going to go to McDonald&#8217;s today there is brand value in being able to see that stupid Big Mac on the back of every bus day in day out.</p>
<p>Similarly, there is brand value in having your email in the in-box even if it never gets opened. Even if the recipient never opens my message there is some brand value in having them read my from address and subject line, day in day out.</p>
<p>They might not consider my message in the moment, but they will remember my brand over time.</p>
<p>After 6 months of no open and no click, I will pass on the branding exercise and move that recipient to my not interested list.</p>
<p>Let me know your thoughts.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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